I thought Walnut was alot like Mahogany but heavier?
If Rosewood/Cocobola is so desireable for the neck, how about for the body?
Snakewood just looks so DAMN cool.
Hopefully Ron won't kill me for re-examining my specs for the 800th time.
Thanks!
Joe
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"Exotic" Wood for Body: Walnut/Rosewood/Cocobola/S |
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Any thoughts on some of these more exotic woods for the body?
I thought Walnut was alot like Mahogany but heavier? If Rosewood/Cocobola is so desireable for the neck, how about for the body? Snakewood just looks so DAMN cool. Hopefully Ron won't kill me for re-examining my specs for the 800th time. Thanks! Joe |
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Big Mike Blues |
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Ahh...just put a third on order Joe, thats what I'd do.
Can't speak to walnut, but it seems to me Cocobolo, or rosewood would be better suited to a top than a solid body. A lot of people like walnut, but really is preference. What I WILL say...make sure you have in mind the TONE you want, then pick the wood to suit. If you want the ultimate les paul, but go Coco top over Walnut with a snakewood board and rosewood neck...no pickups on earth will get you close. ______________________
Thorn #018 "Cordelia" Thorn #140 "Albatross" In Progress Thorn #149 In Progress |
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daoinnyc |
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Only 800 revisions.....Your a mere amatuer. I've been thru quite a few myself. Ron's been WAY obliging. I think I'm pretty much set. now about the wood choices. i'm pretty sure cocobolo will make walnut seem light. No idea how it would sound so I'm not much help. I'm curious as to walnut as a top or back wood myself. someone here, not sure who, has got a walnut something or other on order, ( no disrespect just cant remeber any specifics ) and i'm pretty sure i've seen a lovely cocobolo top picture somewhere on the forum also.
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jimmybcool |
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Do ya think Ron likes me more cause I've made no revisions on mine?
(Says the class kiss ass on the front row) Thorn #47
Thorn #148 (on order) Thorn #184 (on order) |
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mikef1331 |
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Matt (guitarguy510) has an all Walnut Deluxe on order and I think it's Matt I that has a Walnut HB on order as well.
Here's a description from a luthier supply (LMII) site on walnut's tone. Quote: Hope it helps. --------------------
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jcground |
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Walnut, rosewood, cocobolo (which is a kind of rosewood), and snakewood would all make for a very heavy guitar body, so probably best if you were also planning to at least chamber them. Semi- or full-hollowbody would make the weight much more manageable, but would also make for a guitar with a different vibe too.
Walnut is fairly common to see in guitar and bass bodies. Carvin still makes them, and I believe Rickenbacker does too (though they can be hard to find). Alembic has made some brilliant stuff with walnut, and I think Ibanez used to build some stuff with it too, among others. All the walnut guitars I've ever checked out had good tone, but they were also heavy. I've never played an all rosewood or cocobolo solid body. I'm almost positive they'd be a lot heavier than I'd like, even if I loved the tone. Snakewood is really dense, so I suspect it'd be a very heavy body wood too, but the kicker with snakewood is that I've never seen a piece anywhere near big enough to make a body with. Typically, you'll find narrow pieces that could be used for a fretboard or smaller parts only. Other unusual body or top woods you might consider: Lacewood Myrtlewood Zebrawood Bubinga Padauk |
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oscar100 |
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wait until you see my next thorn !!!!!!!!!
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MDVermette |
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Jim says:
Quote: And some guys even make guitars that seem to be mostly purpleheart. Not a look for those who want to blend in with the rest of the crowd! --Mark (whose got a ziricote/mahogany body and wenge/kingwood neck Warmoth project he needs to get to!) |
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guitarguy510 |
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I owned a black walnut custom shop carvin and I sold it to start paying for my walnut Thorn!
-Matt-
------------------ My Gear: Thorn # 153 (in progress), Parker Fly Deluxe and Nitefly-M, PRS CE-24 Egnater M4, Mesa 50/50, 2 Earcandy BuzzBombs, Mesa Thiele (EVM12-L) HBE Psilocybe, Boss DD-20, BYOC Delay and Deluxe Chorus, Line 6 Verbzilla, Peterson Strobostomp |
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jcground |
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Quote: Interesting guitar, Mark. Thanks for the link. I've seen purpleheart used a lot in five or seven piece necks to contrast with lighter woods (usually maple), and I've seen tops and backs done as veneers in purpleheart. The guitar in the link has a purpleheart top over maple, and a purpleheart fingerboard over maple. Pretty big piece for the top, it looks like. Cool, and definitely a different look. I'm guessing the color looks more striking in person than in the pictures. Purpleheart usually looks pretty vivid in person, but it does vary from piece to piece. My dad has some sick pieces of bubinga and teak for projects of his. The bubinga would probably make three tops... ...but he'll probably use it for a table.I don't think teak is a good choice acoustically. I haven't seen it used in instruments much (am I wrong?), but I've seen some very pretty lumber. |
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MDVermette |
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Jcground says:
Quote: I've got a cheap (but really good!) Ibanez 6 string bass with a 5 piece neck of alternating strips of wenge and bubinga. It has a beautiful warm, midrangey sound. The neck seems to be unfinished. I liked the sound so much that when I decided to do another kit guitar, I spec'ed wenge as well. As seductive a neck wood as unfinished rosewood, IMO. --Mark |
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jimmybcool |
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I can only imiagine.
When is it due (approx)? Any tease as to why this fits into an exotic wood thread Thorn #47
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graydane |
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Quote:I have to agree 100% with BM. You will end up with a completely different (tonally) sounding guitar than you have in your mind if you are choosing woods simply because they might be more "exotic". Figure out what type of tone you are going for the, choose from those types of woods from that list. Ron can help you once you know what you want. |
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guitarguy510 |
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Quote: I don't remember all the woods, but I belive Oscar's guitar has a snakewood fretboard if memory serves me.... if you search WAYYYY back you might find it in a thread somewhere! -Matt-
------------------ My Gear: Thorn # 153 (in progress), Parker Fly Deluxe and Nitefly-M, PRS CE-24 Egnater M4, Mesa 50/50, 2 Earcandy BuzzBombs, Mesa Thiele (EVM12-L) HBE Psilocybe, Boss DD-20, BYOC Delay and Deluxe Chorus, Line 6 Verbzilla, Peterson Strobostomp |
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Gregolino |
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OK, one of my Thorns in progress are specified with walnut as most critical part responsible for guitar sound. I have firm reason for that, but I think that it will be intriguing from sonical point.
Walnut is unbelievebly good tone wood, but ones with excellent optical texture can be rare and expensive (yacht's, furniture and weapons manufacturers buy all available in AAAAA quality). It's heavier than light woods, but not overly heavy to avoid it. Nice crotch walnut can be really striking. I think that Thorn guitars deserve to represent walnut in same line with highly figured koa and quilted maple. I would even give walnut preference over maple sonically in particular body constructions. |
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Matt I |
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I am indeed the one who has an HB on order with walnut. It'll have a one piece (!) walnut body and a one piece walnut top, as well as a curly walnut neck. Pickup covers, headstock overlay, tailpiece and fretboard will all be some sort of figured maple. Finish wil be all Tru-oil yet again (I love it).
We think it'll have good tone with focus and even some twang. |
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Gregolino |
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I've no clue when I'll see my maple-walnut HB or when you'll see your walnut-maple HB, but when that happen we'll have lot of things to discuss and compare.
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Big Mike Blues |
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Another 2 year old thread resurrected.
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18-140-149*-Jr90-Koi90 www.phatdaddyguitarworks.com <- Now Open |
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Gregolino |
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Big Mike Blues Quote: ...and guitar still in pipeline... can you feel my pain? |
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Big Mike Blues |
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Pain? No. I also have a guitar in the pipeline. I consider myself fortunate. It's done when it's done, I see no reason to worry about when that eventuality will take place.
If I recall your 2 guitars are HIGHLY customized masters, with special inlay I believe you said? That adds a load of time to ron's plate. Be patient, and I'm sure you will be most pleased. ______________________
18-140-149*-Jr90-Koi90 www.phatdaddyguitarworks.com <- Now Open |
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Alex da4th |
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Gregolino,
If it causes you that much pain, I'll gladly take your in-queue guitars off your hands and wait for however it takes Ron to complete them. (You have already put your $$ down, right? Not sure if I can afford your expensive, exotic, and one-off tastes.) Ron, if he takes me up on the offer, feel free to drop them all the way to the back of the list. In all seriousness, Gregolino. Whining constantly isn't exactly the best way to convince someone to want to work extra hard for you. If it is really that bad for you, just forfeit your deposits and your place in line for the others who have shown patience. For Christ's sake, you've waited this long and Ron has already said he sees light at the end of the tunnel. Sit back and dream about getting your hands on your guitars and stop bitchin'. -Alex
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